Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

Lou G — Mon, 29 Mar 2021 05:14:03 GMT

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David M said:
Hi everyone,
I'm new to the discussion section here on the site, and the main reason I am here is to find out your thoughts on the best sole grind for a flop shot.
I've been improving my flop shot quite a bit over the past few months, and would like to get a Vokey that is great for these types of shots when played.
I've been looking at the M and L grinds, but I know that bounce plays a big role in these types of shots. I've also heard that the 4* bounce on the L grind would not necessarily be the best option.
Let me know what you guys think!
Dave

M, K and L. I play M and K 2* strong.

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My main weapons for those kinds of shots are my 60-14K (bent to 58) and 64W. I can get under the ball better on a tight lie with the K vs the M grind. T grind is a good one for flop shots too. I play a 54-10S 2* strong and do OK on flop shots also. Unfortunately, the 60-04T doesn't come in jet black.

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

JJohnson — Tue, 09 Mar 2021 20:58:42 GMT

I have a 60M and can flop it fine in traditional conditions. I really want to try the 60L for when things firm up down here in the TX summers.

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

Lou G — Sat, 06 Mar 2021 01:46:47 GMT

[quote user="DavidM"]

Hi everyone,

I'm new to the discussion section here on the site, and the main reason I am here is to find out your thoughts on the best sole grind for a flop shot.

I've been improving my flop shot quite a bit over the past few months, and would like to get a Vokey that is great for these types of shots when played.

I've been looking at the M and L grinds, but I know that bounce plays a big role in these types of shots. I've also heard that the 4* bounce on the L grind would not necessarily be the best option.

Let me know what you guys think!

Dave

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M, K and L. I play M and K 2* strong.

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

Chuck Zirkle — Sun, 17 Jan 2021 19:48:08 GMT

It all depends on you particular swing. Suggest you get fit and try numerous lies/lofts/grinds/shafts. That way you can be absolutely sure. With respect.

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

Rick F — Sun, 17 Jan 2021 03:14:24 GMT

Get fit! I did at the end of last season and it makes a difference. The online selector tool is a starting point only.

I'm a sweeper/picker 100% but I was put into 54* D grind and 60* S grind. Previously I was playing a 54* S grind and 60* M grind. My short game has got so much better since making the switch.

FWIW the 4* L grind is one of the hardest ones to hit.

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

Chris B — Thu, 14 Jan 2021 23:33:43 GMT

I have a 60.14 K grind and its worked fairly well for me. I flew a green and was on a worn down area with not much grass and had trees right in front of me. I was able to get it up and over and on the green fairly easily.

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

Chris92009 — Thu, 14 Jan 2021 21:23:28 GMT

L grid has one of the lowest bounces along with a couple other options so theoretically it should be one of the easier grinds however if M is working stay with it!

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

Bill G — Wed, 06 Jan 2021 00:43:06 GMT

[quote user="Charles P"]I have hit some absolutely nasty flops over trees 50 yards of the pin with the 60.04 L grind. I have a shallow swing so it works, but it will slide right under the ball in rainy conditions.

A lot of pros are switching to the 60.04 T grind. Best lob for tight lies. I've heard so many good things about it, I feel like they should include it in the SM9 lineup outside of wedge works.

Never had a TM high toe, but Ive been think about getting one to play around with. If Vokey ever makes a hi toe i would buy it immediately.

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I second "If Vokey ever makes a hi toe i would buy it immediately". I have recently moved to Vokey SM7 50-14F, 54-08M and 58-08M to improve my wedge play and gapping. I had them specially built with Recoil F4 shafts (as used in my irons) and set at D2/3. Delighted with the move except for the 58M. For me the 58M is great for full or half shots and flop shots where there is a bit of ground under the ball. However I have come from an old png Eye2 gorge wedge which I found so versatile from all types of lies around the green whether fluffy sand, soft wet or hard pan or firm ground. With the Eye 2 I could set my hands low and lay the face wide open to create much more bounce when needed than with the 58-08M. I think the TM high toe follows a similar path.

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

Charles P — Sun, 03 Jan 2021 20:06:48 GMT

I have hit some absolutely nasty flops over trees 50 yards of the pin with the 60.04 L grind. I have a shallow swing so it works, but it will slide right under the ball in rainy conditions.

A lot of pros are switching to the 60.04 T grind. Best lob for tight lies. I've heard so many good things about it, I feel like they should include it in the SM9 lineup outside of wedge works.

Never had a TM high toe, but Ive been think about getting one to play around with. If Vokey ever makes a hi toe i would buy it immediately.

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

GMcClanahan — Fri, 01 Jan 2021 02:49:51 GMT

M grind is the most versatile and designed for those that like to open the face. I love how the leading edge stays close to the ground when I open the face.

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

Victor C — Thu, 31 Dec 2020 04:31:22 GMT

Get fit for sure. I thought I was a "picker", but Trackman verified I am am a digger.

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

Mitch B — Wed, 30 Dec 2020 22:43:01 GMT

If you are a digger, go with the high bound D. I’d you are a sweeper, the mid bounce M is probably more suited for you.

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

Mike M — Wed, 30 Dec 2020 12:17:21 GMT

I agree with Todd; you really have to decide if you have a shallow or deep divot. Are you a digger or a sweeper.For me the real question is course conditions.Firm or soft? I think players get caught up in the loft, bounce and grind when choosing a wedge and forget about the course conditions they normally play, and if those conditions are well suited to their wedge of choice.

Just a thought........

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

Matt C — Wed, 23 Dec 2020 03:32:31 GMT

T Grind

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

Doug E — Tue, 22 Dec 2020 23:00:32 GMT

I find the M or D Grind much more versatile than the S. I played an S grind 54 in the SM7s but switched to the D grind in my SM8 54. It offers me much more opportunity for opening the clubface to produce different types of shots than my old 54.10 S grind did. (Which, btw, I was reluctant to change, I liked it so much at the time.) I used it for a lot of square, or slightly open-faced chipping and pitchipping shots, but I mostly used my 58.12D for the bulk of longer, higher pitch shots that I wanted to stick very close to where I landed them. I also have an M grind 60 and 62. Both are phenomenal on open-faced high flopitches and flops from short grass/tight lies. When I play the 60, I will use it for full and three-quarter square-faced approach shots, but when the 62 is in the bag, I rarely use it for that type of shot. Mostly just greenside touch shots, but I can do a lot with it in those situations.

On the Vokey site it states, "The M Grind, Voke’s favorite, is designed for players that like to rotate the club face open and closed to manufacture shots around the green. Ideal for players with a shallower, more sweeping swing type who play shots from a variety of clubface positions." He personally states it's the most versatile. He also calls the D Grind the high bounce version of the M grind. Very similar grind, just in a higher bounce package.

About the S grind, the site states, "The S Grind features a full sole that has been narrowed by a trailing edge grind, giving it a faster feel through the turf. The S Grind is best for neutral to firm conditions and for players that like to control loft with their hands ahead or behind the ball." It's also mentioned that it is ideal for square-faced shots. Bob personally says it's a "very, very versatile wedge," as well.

Both are excellent in my opinion. Having played both grinds extensively, I would agree with the Vokey description of each of them. Nonetheless, for MY swing, the M grind (and D for that matter) give me more flexibility and options for the conditions I generally play in.

Now, when it's muddy, as it will definitely be when the snow melts here next week, the M grind wedges with 8* of bounce, or even the 12* D grind isn't going to be enough! I have an SM7 58.14K around here I can throw in the bag for that, if necessary.

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

Chuck Zirkle — Tue, 22 Dec 2020 22:31:55 GMT

[quote user="Todd T"]It depends if youre a Digger, Neutral or Swinger.. No one here can tell you since no one has seen you swing a club... Get fit!

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Best advice......

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

Todd T — Tue, 22 Dec 2020 06:00:33 GMT

It depends if youre a Digger, Neutral or Swinger.. No one here can tell you since no one has seen you swing a club... Get fit!

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

Dave M — Sun, 13 Dec 2020 06:23:53 GMT

S grind is most neutral/universal

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

DonJ — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 18:07:53 GMT

Is there a best bounce on a 60 that's good for all conditions hard, firm and soft ?

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

Seth P — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 13:26:26 GMT

I have a 58* SM8 with 8* bounce, M grind. Great out of bunkers and grass with the face wide open. Comes off high and lands soft. Hope this helps.

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

Sam D — Thu, 03 Dec 2020 03:46:11 GMT

I don't know I still play with the 200 series. There an oldie but a goodie,but you can't blade because if you do then say bye to your'e ball.

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

Mike C — Sun, 14 Feb 2016 02:58:29 GMT

I prefer the M-Grind 60 or the TVD-60 that used to be available for a flop shot. With the heel and toe relief on these grinds you can open up the face as much as you like which is essential to the flop shot. This is also an excellent all-around grind for many uses. You may want to find a retailer who has all of the different grinds available as demo clubs to try them all out in the conditions you are used to playing in. Good luck!

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

The303 — Sun, 14 Feb 2016 01:30:07 GMT

M grind as well

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

DV — Sat, 13 Feb 2016 03:36:08 GMT

I would recommend the 60/04 if you play course with a lot of hardpan like I do. If you are playing more lush courses then you can go with 60/08. I think Vokey has a 62 degree wedge available now. This might be the best option if you are playing a lot of courses with elevated greens and you have game.

DV

RE: Best Vokey Grind for Flop Shot?

James G — Fri, 12 Feb 2016 22:52:33 GMT

I have to agree with the "M grind". Its versatile and lays very nice on set up and goes right under, AND through the ball in a variety of lies.
Hope that helps your information gathering :)