Circle T vs Tour Rat vs Retail

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By Tim S

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  1. There is a growing controversy on a famous golf blog regarding Scotty putters. There are claims the retial line of Scotty's are cast overseas and not in the USA, but the face is Milled in the USA which alows Scotty to brand the putter "Milled in the USA".

    Are the retail Scottys a cast head? if not, are the retail heads milled in the USA or overseas somewhere?

    Also, please explain the real differences between a TOUR Scotty and a retail version.

    I assume the Circle T and the Tour Rat are 100% solid stainless, completely milled in the USA and the retail line is not? please explain as this will help decide which line i purchase. I would like to kow exactly what I am buying for $400 vs $2000

    thank you

  2. William Glancy

    William Glancy
    Edmonton

    scotty cameron putters are not cast. you can clearly see they're milled entirely.
  3. please provide this proof.

    some sources are claiming just the face is completely milled for the retail line.
  4. DonJ

    DonJ
    Cranston, RI

    @Tim,that's a good question don't know if you wil get the answer your looking for but I hope you do.
  5. JAM

    JAM

    Interesting question from Tim S. I am also interested in the answer.
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  7. William Glancy

    William Glancy
    Edmonton

    Tim S you can see the mill marks all over the putter bodies.

    if you want to see what a cast putter with a milled face looks like, check out the cleveland line of putters. those are cast bodies, milled faces.


    it's immediately evident that the cameron putters aren't cast. none of them are. they're all made in california in CNC mills.
  8. thanks for that answer......that being said, what is the difference between the retail line and the tour line like the circle T and the RAT?
  9. The difference between the lines, lately, is very little. Many newer circle T putters are made on teh same production line with a few more millings adding a CT logo and some TOUR ONLY writing. Some heads have additions you can't get at retail like a welded neck or sight aides. Tour issue used to mean it was for a tour player or vip. Now they sell a load of them once a week on the website that are immediately bought by bots and sold for a substantial mark up. To me, the early 2000s were the heyday where you could see some hand shaping and hand stamping. Now they are more mass produced like the rats. You still will occasionally see something unique come out but it is more and more rare. The Tour Types are a prime example. Totally retail with a few extra engravings or a unique finish (that you can no longer get corrected if it goes bad.)

    There 100% were cast Cameron's, but not the main production models. They are in the authentication registry. Made for a few specific pros to try to get them to switch from png.
  10. Retail models are milled from 303 Stainless Steel, Circle T models are typically GSS (German Stainless Steel) or Carbon Steel. The materials and process involved typically account for the costing differential, that and some welds, stamps and other techniques used for Circle T models. None of this will lead to making more putts IMO but they sure are cool.

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